No idea.....I am hardly there. We have dedicated station huggers who control the trade hubs. The rest hunt in small groups as you can see on our killboard.

You guys realize high sec wars mean nothing and you're pretty much a ****** if you think anything else right? Nobody cares. It's irrelevant.

Nobody said anything about giant 0.0 alliance. Reading is generally a pretty good skill to have if you're going to (attempt to) communicate. Just saying I never saw the appeal of fighting on the undock with neutral RR bypassing game mechanics and then talking smack. If that doesn't apply to you, move on. If it does...why are you talking to me?

People can complain as much as they like but attacking in trade hubs often leads to the most lucrative kills and puts heavy stress on any entity that is targetted by Marmite. If people can remember, Orphanage was the previous merc corp that fit this role. People talking about "fair" should go play sports games where everything is completely mirror equal.

But Eve is not that sort of game. Eve mimics real life. If you're a military leader and you've engaged in a battle where the situation isn't unfair to your enemies, you're a terrible leader.

Does getting your hauler killed in 4-4 constitute an equal fight? No. Does it give anyone any e-honor? No. Does any of that really matter? Only to the losers who have to make some sort of excuse.

What matters is that you're out 20+ billion isk. Nobody gives a damn if sides weren't drawn all equal. Save that stuff for the tournaments. This is the sandbox, **** happens, and bitching or trolling about it on the forums doesn't change the facts.

Maybe Marmite are terrible at pvp because in an equal fair fight they'd lose. Even if that is true, all that matters is that you lost billions to them and have been relegated to bitching about it like a school girl on the forums. Marmite has a good business model and Tora has cornered a market that's in high demand. Good for them. Now what are you going to do about it?

I'm not with Marmite. Just stating facts.

Can you give me specifics of the things that I am terrible at?

Doesn't matter if they can fight or not. Call them **** if you like but the fact remains they'll hurt your empire logistics. And that's a service plenty of people are paying for.

Except "being good" is an invented concept as unique as each individual in this game. For some "being good" is getting the most kills. For others it is getting that one expensive capital kill. For others still it is putting green on the killboard, some random, some in specific areas. So ranting about how "marmite is bad" is pointless.

All I know is when people put money in Marmite, that money goes to blowing up expensive logistic ships of whoever the target is. That's a valuable strategic tool. Bitching and moaning about how "bad" they are says more about the individual ranting than it does about Marmite. Maybe they are bad, maybe they are good, I don't care. I care that X gets blown up and quite frankly I want them to have a hard time around Jita as the economic center of Eve.

All I know is when people put money in Marmite, that money goes to blowing up expensive logistic ships of whoever the target is. That's a valuable strategic tool. Bitching and moaning about how "bad" they are says more about the individual ranting than it does about Marmite. Maybe they are bad, maybe they are good, I don't care. I care that X gets blown up and quite frankly I want them to have a hard time around Jita as the economic center of Eve.

Personally I don't care much about if we are good, bad, ugly, perfect, nub cakes or whatever....... I care about one important factor :

Are we having fun playing Eve ?

And yes we are having much fun!!

So if the alliance ceo doesn't care about the label you want to give it, why would anyone outside the alliance care ? Sorry if this will hurt your feelings, but I am not really interested in your negative opinion ?

Forum warrior =/= "ex pvper."

Anya/Quen, instead of yapping on forums, why don't you make some friends and go fight Marmite? Then you can post the killmails.

There you have it ladies and gentlemen, it wasn't that Anya/Quen was acting like an angry man child that he's been tossed out of more corporations than anyone would care to remember, it's that he was "mainly right about a lot of **** people didn't want to see."

"They can't see my genius!!! It's all everyone else's fault but my own! *pout pout*"



I'd probably stick to badposting on marmite threads instead of making fleets and fighting them too if I were inclined to show your level of incompetence, ego and record shattering ignorance.

Except I don't need to prove myself to you, Tora. I haven't needed to prove myself to you. No one needs to prove themselves to you, so stop expecting us to play your game.

Your game is to sit on the station undock with artillery weapons and attempt to blap an enemy who undocks. If you're feeling "frisky" you'll sit on a gate instead. not once have I seen the great Tora Bullshito do anything other than that. Even when I flew my Barghest through Jita. Your band of ****-ups just watched the blinking red Barghest as if it was a mythical ******* unicorn in person undock, align to a gate, and warp to Perimeter.

And you didn't ******* follow, because "clearly that is bait" (I have that ******* mail from three weeks ago).

No one needs to dec you so you can run to all your little buttbuddies in the "mercenary" community to save you. You've learned (good on you) that anyone who actually puts weapons on a ship and has fleet doctrines will hand you your ass ten times before you realize what in the hell happened. Your killboard shows how your alliance gets the donkey **** beaten out of it when someone with PvP prowess actually fights you.

you quote Sun Tzu, and yet you haven't the faintest idea as to what his points meant in the classic. It sounded cool, and anyone who quotes a famous philosopher must know what they're talking about, because not just anyone goes to Wikipedia to look up quotes attributed to that person.

haha... dont make me Grrr at you again

Sol didn't complain when he was in alliance. He sounds like one of those ex-smokers

How would you say that potential is not utilized or "controlled?"